Are You Really My Friend?
This post has been sitting in my dashboard for quite a while.
Before I started writing it, though, it was just a lonely title, somewhat like a bemused shepherd who’s waylaid his sheep, and is wistfully whistling for them to gather (hey, nothing wrong with a shepherd whistling, is there?).
You see, I just couldn’t find the right hook for it.
Then yesterday, Lori Gosselin published a fabulous guest post by Bill Dorman, asking, “How does your friendship grow?” It’s an excellent post, as Bill’s writing usually is. Bill posits that when it comes to growing our friend circle, we’re either hunters or farmers (or maybe a bit of both), and writes:
“There is a difference between the two. Are you out there bouncing around hoping to ‘bag’ as many friends as you can? More is better, right? I’m sure you can never have too many. Do you prefer superficial so you don’t have to expend a lot of energy?
“Or, do you value your relationships and take time to nurture them? Can your view of relationships be described like farming where it is rooted in a rich soil consisting of a blend of mutual trust, respect and shared values?
“Acquaintances are a dime a dozen, but a true friend is priceless.”
I replied saying that I believe I’m a farmer. I don’t go around “collecting” friends; people are way too important to be treated like stamps. I have a ton of acquaintances, many many people I’m friendly with, but relatively few people who are “real” friends.
I have one best friend.
Seriously – just one. She’s been my best friend since we were in high school, and that’s a long time ago. She knows my ins and outs, my ups and downs better than anyone else, and almost as well as my husband does.
Today is her birthday. I don’t know if I’ll get to talk to her today (she currently lives in the UK), and even though we haven’t spoken in a few months, when we do, there are no barriers between us and no awkward silences (in fact, the silences are rather lovely).
There have been times when she’s pinged me on Skype and I haven’t been able to talk, and vice versa. There have been times I’ve been going through so much, I didn’t want to talk to anyone, not even her. When I would finally come out of that kind of situation, then I would.
She never held it against me, and I feel the same about her. If the roles were reversed, think I’d write her off? Never.
Social media and friendship
The beauty of social media is that we come into quick contact with so many people who seem appealing, attractive (not just physically), and congenial. I’ve made some terrific friends thanks to SM, people who have my back, including so many of you who take the time to comment on WUL, talk to me on Twitter, Facebook, etc. I try, whenever I can, to uncover the remarkable in my networks, and I suspect you do too. Because that helps me get to know you better.
Many of these online friendships have developed into real life ones, and they enrich my life enormously.
But here’s the thing. It takes time. And I wonder sometimes if one of the worst illusions social weaves is that hey, presto, I know who you are, you know who I am, and bingo, we’re friends.
It would be easy for me to assume you want to know the deep, dark secrets of my life simply because you and I @ message each other frequently (and yes, I believe we all have them). But I think that would be presumptuous.
You have a life beyond social media; so do I. And while the two are increasingly intertwined, it’s one thing for me to meet you at the social media “cocktail party;” it would be quite another if I were to invite myself over to your family Thanksgiving dinner with no warning, wouldn’t it?
That’s why for me, the farmer approach is the way to go.
Whether you’re using social media for personal reasons or business, there’s nothing like carefully nurturing relationships, especially those that start with an @. The @ is the opening door; when we get invited to walk through it, that’s when we know we’re friends.
That’s what I think; what do you think? I ask because I believe you and I are progressing along the friendship path, some perhaps more quickly than others, and maybe some of us won’t make it through that door. Regardless, I value all of your opinions. Truly.
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I think in most cases, the online acqaintances we make can later mature into friendships. But I also have people who call themselves my real friends in my physical life who haven't been there for me, nurtured me or sent me help and support the way some people I have never met in person have. I believe that all friendships take time and care to mature. Time online has taught me not to discount people because of the medium where I first encountered them, though.
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Hi Shonali
I, too, really enjoyed bdorman264 's guest post on lorigosselin 's lifeforinstance tackling How Does Your Friendship Grow? The comments both on that post and over here have been thought provoking and I just loved your post today. I have just a couple of very best friends and a larger circle of casual friends that have stayed with me over the years and on Bill's post, I labeled myself a farmer in that I would much rather nurture and tend to those valued few friends than to hunt and bag large numbers of people that I only know superficially. It's just not my nature. However, there is something interesting about the sociology of friendships that I would like to bring up. Historically, our friendships have been primarily friendships of convenience. In other words, being the social beings that we are, we would create bonds of friendship where ever we settled and claimed our homestead. Before the phrase "global community" ever existed, we usually stayed put in one location and made our friends based on the convenience of location. As the world became more mobile, we modified the friendships of convenience to include friends that we made when we went away to college, when we studied abroad, when we did volunteer work during the summer in another state, when we moved for our career, etc. But, they were still friends that we typically met IRL and whom we shared a common/convenience with. We made friends with our children's friend's parents. We made friends with people in places we share our spirituality. We made friends at the dog park. These were friends but they were borne of convenience. NOW, there is a game changer in how we can choose our friends. We have SoMe. WIth SoMe we meet like minded people...people on the same career track, people with similar hobbies, people that can teach us things we crave to understand, people that we can teach. The permutations are almost limitless and I find that for me personally, these friendships have matured and blossomed in a completely new way. I have been fortunate to meet quite a few of the online friends that I have made via SoMe and the comfort level is there almost immediately. Through SoMe, we share so much, support each other so sincerely and, we are perhaps better able to "weed out" the SoMe "friends" that just aren't working out for us.
I apologize, Shonali, for the length of this comment. And I thank you for having such a fun place to stop by!
Claudia
SocialMediaDDS Oh my goodness, Claudia, please don't apologize for the length of your comment. I love that this post touched you enough to share so deeply. I need to re-read your comment to respond thoughtfully, so I will be back soon - but just wanted you to know that I appreciate your time and energy very much!
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Great post, Shonali. I was going to talk to you about Thanksgiving. Me and MY dogs will see you soon. Ha ! No, this is such an interesting topic. I have always been a person who had to meet you IRL to make the determination, if you were a REAL friend. Today, I am so grateful for the friends I have met on line. Truly remarkable people, who continue to help me to this day. I am still amazed at the kindness and willingness of so many people to show support and help others on line. It is a Beautiful thing.
I think you can get a feel for who is "Real" and who is not. It is what it is. I would love to have a yearly get together with ALL the people I have met on line and have a chance to talk to them in person. Now, that would be cool.
I have a couple best friends back home in Ft. Lauderdale. We talk all the time, especially with football season approaching. i miss my boys.
Thanks Shonali, for this post. May you continue to prosper, my "friend".
Al
Al Smith Thank you so much and back at you. What's on the menu, btw? :p
I think you can get a feel for who/what's real or not... but sometimes, your internal radar doesn't work properly.... I know it's let me down a couple times - what about you? And I too am really grateful for the people I've met online, so many of whom I've been able to connect with offline as well. There are so many people who've shown me kindness, without knowing me IRL - it's amazing.
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Shonali The menu ? Just tryin to CARE and Share the message. With all the doom and gloom, we really need to CARE and just be nice to people.
My gut (radar) has been pretty good, when it comes to deciding on friends, but I too have missed on a couple occassions.
Proud of the way you have kept the BB goin. You are doing great !
Al
Al Smith Well, thank you! I guess we wouldn't be human if we didn't miss every now and then, huh? Thank you for CARE-ing, Al (I know that's not grammatically correct, but I wanted to show you some luhv....).
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I think we also need to be careful about gossip. Each of us is eager to learn more scoopage about that Twitter "friend" and share it with the rest. Guilty? Uh-huh, me, too. Human nature to be interested in others who hide behind the @? Probably...
Regardless, I have developed an amazing network of new friends. Not BFFs, and they don't need to be. It's up to each peep to define what that relationship means and nurture it more than just with tweets and FB posts.
Soulati | PR I don't think it's wrong to be interested in the human behind the @ - aren't we all? I mean, I loved seeing your video the other week, it brought you alive for me. But if you told me something weird about yourself, or dark and secret, I'd never share it with anyone unless you expressly gave me permission to do so.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you say everyone doesn't have to be a BFF. Bingo!
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Anyone who starts their post with 'fabulous guest Bill Dorman' deserves and accolade :) and a Houra!
Since I'm a foodie I look at social media friendships as two categories, fast-food drive-by relationships (you know the ones who pop in and out and don't really take the time to engage) and the better, sit-down, long dinner with friends.
Thanks for launching this discussion, which I'm sure isn't going to be over for a while.
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John Falchetto That was pretty cool; I think I'm going to run for mayor of twitterville....
I do like the food analogy..........
bdorman264 I could even throw in some wine in there. ;)
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John Falchetto ... if it ever gets over, LOL. Thank you for stopping by, John.
You know, I really enjoy going to tweetups, etc, where I'm able to put faces to Twitter handles. But even better, for me, are the smaller gatherings, where we have the time to actually talk to each other. Do you think that is also a factor of growing older?
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Long before "social media" was a buzzword and even before the world wide web was launched to the public, I telnetted to internet games hosted on academic servers -- which we collectively called MUDs, or multi-user domains. In the spirit of Tolkein, I created a character name, gained hit points by defeating demons, and gained spell points by practicing to be a wizard. It was all fictitious -- but real people were behind every character, typing commands to enter rooms and attack each other.
We may not have known anything about each other -- and may not have shared anything in common -- but we played on a common game. Is that friendship any different than the friendship Shonali might share with
But here's a question, one I constantly ask myself over and over: How do you define a friend? Is there a universal definition we can all agree? Because it is clear Facebook contorted the definition to be anyone. You send me a friend request, I say yes; and we're friends.
Friendship is beyond the word used to describe a relationship, though; and the question begs to be asked if people connected with each other on a social networking site or on a blog are truly friends -- or merely people connected with each other.
There is a difference between a friendship, a relationship, and a connection; and I am afraid some people (and many companies) confuse the terms.
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Ari Herzog I've never been into that kind of game playing, but I know my mother has quite a few "friends" she's made, whom she's never met, via Farmville (!). And she values what they bring to her life.
I suppose for me, friendship starts blossoming when it starts growing beyond one dimension. That could be an online game, Twitter chats, a weekly farmer's market trip, whatever. It's when something about that person sparks a little more interest in you, and is reciprocated, so that both of you want to get to know each other better.
I think you put it very well when you said Facebook has contorted the definition of "friend," Ari. As to your question - for me, some of the people I'm connected with are just that - people I'm connected with. Others are truly friends, or getting there. I suppose it differs for everyone.
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Shonali
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Shonali Very fluid and don't try to put a strict 'label' on it; friend, acquaintance, call it what you will. We all know which 'relationships' have depth or not regardless of where they came from and you can call it whatever you want to.
I have been astounded at the depth and level of friendships that can come from social media and blogging. While I do think the ones that go to the "next level" are the ones that go a step further than comments and tweets to Skype and in person, as Neicolec said, online friendships are a different type of relationship that allows for different dimensions to develop.
adamtoporek Me too! And to both you and Neicolec - when you talk about online friends being a different type of relationship, do you mean that they stay more or less as online acquaintances?
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I love this post Shonali because I have written about this on the brand side before. Basing it more on lack of time and other things in our life taking precedence than lack of intent. Trust me there are many many brands we would LOVE to be friends with (thank you KenMueller ) if we truly could and have it reciprocated.
But going beyond brands to people this holds the same. I have people I truly consider my friend from the Twitter even if I haven't met them yet. Some I might broaden into my posse of people I really enjoy interacting with.
But with 'Friendship' so subjective it is definitely something to ponder. I will definitely take your 'one phone call' from the police station (I know the bailbonds system intimately...err..I mean I would call
Who is this? Chief Alien? You're actually sensical today? BIZARRE, DUDE. HowieSPM
HowieSPM You can call me bro, because I definitely have you on my speed dial....
bdorman264 So you can call HowieSPM "bro" but I can't call you "bud"? Hmpf.
Yes, everyone's definition of "friendship" is different. Makes for an interesting world, doesn't it? There are definitely people I've met online that I wouldn't hesitate to call if I needed to. But there are not a ton...
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ShonaliHowieSPM You can call me Ray and you can call me Jay, just don't call me late for dinner..............especially at your place..................butter chicken................:).
bdorman264 LOL. Duly noted. Except that the BC event will take place once #mybootcamp has been going at least a couple months more... :) HowieSPM
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BTW, you could totally invite yourself over for Thanksgiving dinner at my house. Would love to have you!
jenzings Thank you! But be careful what you wish for. We may show up with all three dogs in tow ...!
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I have thought about this quite a bit. During more than seven years of blogging I have met or spoken with a a small number of people. It is not because I am afraid, have problems or any great secrets to protect.
Most of it comes from time constraints and being blessed with a lot of very good friends from the real world.
But I have found that opening myself up has opened new relationships and I think that it is fair to say that friendships are developing. I am grateful for that. But I don't mind doing this friendship building slowly. Feels more natural to me that way.
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I love this post, Shonali . It's nice to hear another woman (and more below) say they have only one best friend. I have lots of good friends, but only one that I really consider my best friend. As with you, she and I are always in synch no matter how long it's been since we talked, and I can always rely on her.
That said, I've also made some great online friends. They really had my back a few weeks ago. People like nemultimedia soulati jennwhinnem ginidietrich markwschaefer and dannybrownI have enjoyed meeting and getting to know these people virtually and sometimes in phone conversations. I don't know them in the same way that I know the people I see regularly in daily life or that I have a long in-person history with. I would not expect the same things from our relationship that I would from some of my off-line friends, partially because of physical proximity. On the other hand, none of my off-line friends could have had my back the way these people did.
I value these online friendships. I see them as a different type of relationship that offers different things than my offline relationships, but not necessarily any less than those. I also see them as having the potential to become deeper and turn into off-line friendships as well, if time and logistics permit. There are some dimensions to relationships that can only develop with shared, physical time together. Others, I'm finding, can only develop with shared online time together. I feel really lucky to have all those dimensions in my life.
Thanks, Shonali !
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Neicolec I was wondering if I was the only one who had just one best friend...! The other thing that didn't make it into the post - I know that I'm one of her closest friends, but I don't know if I'm *her* best friend. To me, that doesn't matter.
I love getting to know people online. It actually helps me make a better connection offline; just today I was looking at the RSVP list for an event I've been invited to, and my eyes automatically went to their Twitter handle to see if I *knew* them or not. I think that helps break the ice offline.
Do you ever find, though - as I asked MattLaCasse - that sometimes, there are people you just don't want to get to know further? Online or off? And I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, I'm really curious.
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I'm pretty sure I met you and nancymyrland about the same time and of course, through Gini. When I was still green as a boog............er, uh green as green can be. Both of you did the Good morning tweets. I responded and you did likewise but that is only half the story.
The other half is my perception of you being very proper and professional; I didn't just cut loose with my silliness right away. However, after running w/ the cricket post and letting me mix it up with my BFF skypulsemedia I knew this was a nice, comfortable, genuine place to be.
I too like to cultivate my friendships and allow them to deepen if possible. Everybody has their own story to tell and I'm genuinely interested in hearing it.
Thanks for mentioning me in your post; August must be my month. I appreciate you very much.
bdorman264 Aren't you kind to mention me Mr. bdorman264 ...thanks! You are incredibly easy to be friends with, so just know that you have a LOT to do with the community have built, okay? Okay! Shonali This is a good post! I like your description of the @ being a door opening. We have a great deal more to contribute to what happens after that than we realize. Thanks for writing this.
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NancyMyrlandShonali Just letting you know I still see ya out there and appreciate your friendship. Thanks for the kind words too..............
bdorman264 I remember you telling me you thought I was prim and proper. A LOT of people have that impression. Why is that, I wonder? True, I'm not a wild child (those days are behind me, and believe me, I had them), but do I seem schoolmarmish or something?
I was floored by your interest and knowledge of cricket. Now, whenever I'm reading the scores, or watching a game (yay, Willow TV!), you immediately pop into my mind. I was also really touched that you would take the time to talk to me about cricket when I was so into the World Cup.
NancyMyrland My pleasure - and thank you for stopping by! Btw - don't you agree that our mutual friend Bill needs to stop claiming he's invisible? He is SO not...
And as for HowieSPM ... what can I say. I enjoy him thoroughly, his badassness and all.
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I don't differentiate between "online" and "real" friends. Though I've never met the proprietor of this here blog in person, if I had a personal problem I felt she would be able to hep me with I wouldn't hesitate to reach out to her. That goes for any friend I've made online. My philosophy is pretty simple. There are three types of people in this world. My friends, acquaintances I interact with and friends I haven't met yet.
I don't get in to any relationship to half-ass it. If we're going to be friends, then we're going to be friends. If we're going to be friendly, and nothing more, that's fine. Doesn't matter if it's Twitter, Facebook, or people I see in person every day.






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